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Hello all, not sure if this is the right place for this, but I recently was reorganizing my plugins and had to redownload HK Garden Estate Towers.

I have been using the R$ lots 1a, 1b, 4a, 4b, 5a, 5b. However I have noticed that something weird is happening. 1b and 5b grow as normal, but 5a is growing using 1a's .desc info, and 4b with 4a's .desc info. If that is confusing, then an example is a 4x4 lot will grow, which is supposed to be Tower 5a. But the name and capacity, etc. will be Tower 1a, and the Tower 1a 2x3 lot will not grow. Same with 4b and 4a.

I used the buildingplop cheat to test, and noticed that there are only 4 ploppables despite there being 6 lots. I used reader to change exemplar name for lot 4b, but that didn't work and trying to plop 4b would still plop a 4a tower with 4b stats.

I removed the lot files and tested one by one, and they work fine. If I only use 1a, 1b, 4a then the lots are all there. If I use 1a, 1b, 4a, 4b, then 1a and 1b work properly, but there is only the 4b with 4a stats as the 3rd lot available.

I am inexperienced using PIM, but I used it to examine the lots by going to the lots and right click them and check dependency, using the 4a/4b combo as the test problem pair. If only 4a is there it says 4a dependency is 4a.desc, and it appears in the RCI descriptor list. If both 4a and 4b are there then 4a.desc disappears from the RCI descriptor list, and 4a.lot now says the dependency is 4b.desc.

I noticed that it has been updated lately, and maybe this problem is new. I have not used the other R$ lots or R$$ lots, so I am not sure if this is happening to other lots in the pack. Sorry if what I am saying is confusing!

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Although it is not explicitly explained in the installation instructions in the ReadMe file included with the download, it is not intended that you keep all of the files (" Thus, after unzipping you can browse comfortably through the screenshots and decide which lots you are going to use and which ones not. Then, you can simply delete the folders of any undesired lot.").

The following overrides will occur if you do keep all files.  Thus you need to make several choices:

4a vs. 4b
5a vs. 5b
6a vs. 6b
8a vs. 8b

2a vs. 2b
4a vs. 4b
5a vs. 5b
6a vs. 6b
8a vs. 8b

In all cases, if both versions of a lot are kept, the b version of the SC4Desc file will be the one used by the game.

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  • That is good to know, but for me in addition to the 4a/b lots, lot 5a was reading the 1a Desc file. I just changed the capacity on the 1a file so it had the 5a values as a workaround.

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    Well, sounds like something is amiss here. Thank you for reporting that. It definitely doesn't sound like it was intentional, at least not all of it. It's been ages ago and I hardly remember anything. I think the "a" and "b" lots were supposed to have identical towers and, hence, identical stats, but different lot configurations. However, 1 and 5 should be different, I think. I may have forgotten to replace a building exemplar with the correct one - can easily happen when you're juggling 32 lots.

    The update was possibly due to the formatting of the STEX description. It became garbled during a site update, resulting in the download button being located off the screen. Therefore the description was cut off. I don't think the actual file was changed.

    I recently found my HK Garden Estate plugins folder again. Bixel had re-exported most of the models in a better scaled version, and I had been working on an update, but never got around to finishing it, and then I lost the folder in some obscure backup location. Turns out I actually had it, stuffed away on my dying external HD, and managed to rescue it from there.

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