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A lot of people are very focused on Cities Skylines and the forum section is thriving, it looks like the majority, a slim one, of activity happens in these forums. If CS is the long-awaited Simcity 5 in disguise, if the mods are already causing CS to evolve quickly, if the citizens in CS are called Cims and if this level of interest in these CS forums continues I have a proposal-

 

Rename Simtropolis to Cimtropolis.

 

Blasphemy I hear you cry! But why not? If CS is the future and it is popular in this site why not rename Simtropolis?


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As I posted on the update comment, I think there's still a lot of people playing simcity4, so I dont think that is a fair call.

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Also there are some expenses and technical stuff involved in something like that, I think.. not to mention all the links.. although I'm not sure how that works.

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Just because of one game, the name of the site should not change. I'm sure that the SimCity 4 market will continue to thrive and so will Cities Skylines, but due to the fact that Simtropolis is so well rooted into the city building simulation market, a name change would be the most ludicrous, preposterous and unrealistic thing to do! Not only would it be bad for the community, but it would be an awful lot of work for the staff team, not mentioning the large costs associated with this process.

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    Well it was an idea. Cimtropolis even sounds the same as Simtropolis.


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    Computer problems and issues with accessing my Imageshack account meant My SC4 CJ Scrapbook was lost and utterly irretrievable. This setback put me off SC4 for many months.

    Apologies for the inconvenience and for the lost pictures.

    But that SC4 itch did not go away and it had to be scratched! I have started afresh with a new account here- The British Sausage

    The URS is a spiritual successor to the SC4 CJ Scrapbook.

    With this update this will be the last time I visit my original Simtropolis account- admin/mods feel free to remove it or do whatever you need to do. I have no further use for the Ln X (BLANKBLANK) account.

     

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    In addition to agreeing with what's been said above, I think it's worth pointing out that it's only been slightly over a month since the game came out. I realize it's a good game and the community support for it is strong, but I seriously feel that a lot of the claims being made about it (greatest city builder ever, replaced SC4, etc) are being done a bit hastily. It hasn't shown if it'll stand up to the test of time yet.

     

    Besides, wouldn't Simtrop have to get a new domain name and stuff like that? Sounds complicated.

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    Well it was an idea. Cimtropolis even sounds the same as Simtropolis.

    It may sound the same, but Simtropolis looks better printed than Cimtropolis, in my opinion.

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    And we are just pointing out the issues, but yeah, let's keep it friendly : )

     

    To be fair I thought about this too, just like LnX, but then discarded the thought due to the technical difficulty involved, as well as all the other issues.

     

    Interesting to see such an intense reaction to this idea, shows how much people love the site if you ask me : ) Both those who proposed to change the name as well as those who stood up for the old one.

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    Well, I may be wrong, but the "Sim" in Simtropolis, which is the same "Sim" as in SimCity, comes from "Simulation". And all SC4, SC2013, Cities XL and XXL and C:S are city simulators (some better than others). 

     

    I'm already sounding like a scratched record, but C:S has only been around for a month and a half. Ln X said C:S is the future. I'm not denying this, I actually think it is true. However, it is still hard for me to make long-term predictions of a game that has been around for such a short time and with such growth potential.

     

    Keep calm and carry on playing city simulation. We've been doing this for 12 years and counting!

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    Megazimtropolus.....can I get a second? :P lol

     

     

    sure.... it just rolls off the tongue. :thumb:

     

    on another note.. if sim went to cim, does city go to sity? I'm just being cimsitysilly.

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    Cimulator sounds like simulator. This whole idea of mine came about through an April Fools prank mod, dunno who created it, in CS which changed the CS title in the main menu to Cimcity complete with the SC2013 font.


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    This profile is now defunct.

    Computer problems and issues with accessing my Imageshack account meant My SC4 CJ Scrapbook was lost and utterly irretrievable. This setback put me off SC4 for many months.

    Apologies for the inconvenience and for the lost pictures.

    But that SC4 itch did not go away and it had to be scratched! I have started afresh with a new account here- The British Sausage

    The URS is a spiritual successor to the SC4 CJ Scrapbook.

    With this update this will be the last time I visit my original Simtropolis account- admin/mods feel free to remove it or do whatever you need to do. I have no further use for the Ln X (BLANKBLANK) account.

     

    With regards, Miles Saunders-Priem aka. Ln X aka. The British Sausage

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    Meh. The only reason digital residents in CS are called "Cims" is because EA has the term "Sims" trademarked, so Paradox couldn't use it. It's clearly written to be as close as possible without actually stepping on any intellectual property issues.

     

    As for the website, I see no reason to go through the effort of changing how it's spelled. Nothing would be gained.


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    It would certainly be a very bold move. Even though it's a single letter change, it implies the site's main focus would then be for CSL only.

     

    I tend to agree that narrowing the site's main focus wouldn't be such a wise idea. Like others have said, the great thing about Simtropolis is it's a name which covers all games inside the "city-building simulation" genre. SimCity 4 still has a home here, along with the other games which are discussed. Sure, adapting to change is often the way forward, but just because Skylines is a nice new kid on the block, I don't think completely re-branding the site is necessary.


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    Even if SC2013 and earlier became unplayable tomorrow I still think you're still losing 12 years "brand recognition."  It just doesn't seem wise to mess with that.

     

    Simulation is spelled with an 's', not a 'c'.  Besides, my impression is that "cims" is but an intentional corruption of "sims" based on the game's genre and its name starting with a 'c' and not really a a true part of the CSL "brand".  Just seems like a dead end to me.  Without Maxis' "sims" a "cim" would never have been born.


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    As others have said, I've always thought of the "Sim" as meaning "simulator." I see no point in changing one letter when Simtropolis is open to all city simulators (except that one we don't mention coughsocietiescough).

    I do, however, propose that the subtitle of the site be changed to reflect this openness. As it stands, my bookmark of the site reads "Simtropolis - A Simcity Community | SimCity 2013, SimCity 4..." I think that this should be changed to either "A City-Building Community" or the slogan "Many Cities, One Community," so as to include all city builders. Just a suggestion.

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    I do, however, propose that the subtitle of the site be changed to reflect this openness. As it stands, my bookmark of the site reads "Simtropolis - A Simcity Community | SimCity 2013, SimCity 4..." I think that this should be changed to either "A City-Building Community" or the slogan "Many Cities, One Community," so as to include all city builders. Just a suggestion.

     

    I would be on board with that.  I'd vote for "A City-Building Community" or something of the like as it describes the mission of the site.  "Many Cities, One Community" is a good byline but it's too ambiguous to use to describe the site right up in the header IMHO.


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    I think that could be arranged.. although, and excuse me for thinking different, but I dont think that skylines is the replacement for sc4.. and the reason for that is simple, apples and oranges! Skylines is great for building out of the grid.. yet simcity 4 is more realistic and has been the core game for all of us for the past 12 years.. skylines looks right now like the kind of game where new people play it, and the old players like myself play it and then just go back to sc4 because of variety and looks..

     

    I bought the game as soon as it came out.. played a couple hours, and never opened it again.. I just dont see it yet.. too hard to move from a game of 12 years of content to a 1 month game that has mods all over the place and no real proposition yet.

     

    And back to topic.. Simtropolis all the way!!

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    Oh what's the fuss?  :rofl:

     

    I don't recall Simtropolis being exclusive to Sim games in the first place. As I can see it Simtropolis is a community for city-building games and that's all there is to it. Plus yes, it is already a brand name.  8)


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    A lot of people are very focused on Cities Skylines and the forum section is thriving, it looks like the majority, a slim one, of activity happens in these forums. If CS is the long-awaited Simcity 5 in disguise, if the mods are already causing CS to evolve quickly, if the citizens in CS are called Cims and if this level of interest in these CS forums continues I have a proposal-

     

    Rename Simtropolis to Cimtropolis.

     

    Blasphemy I hear you cry! But why not? If CS is the future and it is popular in this site why not rename Simtropolis?

    Personally, I love your passion for the game you play. But IN MY OPINION, you need to take a step back and have refreshing iced tea or favorite beverage.  What is it with this fixation upon asserting C:S over SC4 as the "future?"  Like some kinda social validation drive...  (My opinion of course)


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    Sorry, but the game you play is only one of many supported here.  There is no reason to rename the site just because some element is currently enjoying a high level of popularity.  Simtropolis has become a brand name and has little to do with any given game any longer.  It is about simulation of cities, not about a particular game.  A portmanteau word made of simulation and metropolis.

     

    Besides, the word cimtropolis would be pronounced kimtropolis by anyone who encountered it and knew the general rules of English pronunciation.

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    More than anything else, I think the bigger and real issue at hand is not to change the name but on how to market Simtropolis as a site that caters to all types of city-building simulation games in order to remove the stigma that Simtropolis is a site for Simcity games based on the fact that the words share the same first three letters. :rofl:


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    In view of the fact that Simtropolis has been inclusive in the past of several city simulation games, I fail to see why we are even discussing this.  The current wave of popularity for C:S will die down, but Simtropolis is forever.


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    I love C:SL but I think renaming this whole website is not necessary... As others have said Sim=Simulation so Simtropolis works for all games the community here enjoy.

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    Well ... remember posted this a few times but it never hurts.

     

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    Perhaps you could even say that CS was a substitute for SC 13 (I'm not saying it is) but will never be nowhere near the stage to do the things you have in SC4.

     

    The issue is technical and not only  willing to make better graphics and more profound changes in the characteristics that differentiate them and although we have to recognize the difficulties that the old game faces in recent environments it continues to sell.

     

    Then everyone will continue living together and in this case I think the name is  exactly the meaning of this amplitude that is the place  to all Sims with S or with C.

     

    Not to mention that change a brand / name known because of a momentary fact does not seem to be a really good idea, right?

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